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Not Keen about this...

Discussion in 'General' started by Absinthetic, Aug 12, 2017.

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  1. Gwindalmir Senior Engineer

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    I only wanted to comment on this.
    Saying you are moving from Alpha to Beta does not instantly make the product beta. Who said it did? They are insane.
    Moving to beta means you are changing focus. Given the last several months of continuous performance improvements, I would have thought it was obvious to everyone that Keen has changed their priorities to improving the performance and bugfixing, which is exactly what Beta is for.
    That doesn't mean all new features instantly stop development, however the major core gameplay features I would say are done (like planets, block building, combat). I don't expect new systems like those, however I do expect improvements to be made, which can include new features inside those gameplay features. This might include more voxel tools, more weapons, etc.

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    Whatever keen is doing isn't outside the realm of possibly for this current stage of game development. Also, no know but the devs know how much time this has taken. I would expect this to be a 10:1 ratio of artist to developer time, if not higher. Artists can't fix code bugs, and need *something* to do. Unless you want to fire them all?

    That said, I personally would have preferred something like this after release, but it's not my game. Of course, we don't have all the information at this point, so I can understand everyone's fear. I hope Keen will be able to properly communicate to address our concerns.
     
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  2. SpecFrigateBLK3 Senior Engineer

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    Like I thought, another shitstorm. *digs in*
    We have yet another instance of armchair manager. Nothing has actually happened to the game. In the event that paid content does happen, it will flop or not based on whether or not people buy it. Just don't buy it.
    Furthermore, I concur with the point that alpha and beta designations are a matter of focus and not quality.
    In conclusion, you're not a troll, you're just jumping the gold-plated gun on this whole thing. Calm the fuck down or expect the people who actually trust the developers, to an extent, to disagree with you, with varying levels of enthusiasm.
     
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  3. admanter Apprentice Engineer

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    Any developer any where. These terms do not have a concrete meaning. They are largely arbitrary. They are frequently used to used communicate how "done" a product is.
     
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  4. Spets Master Engineer

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    holy crap those skins are disgusting! :stare:

    +1 Trading Cards and more Steam Achievements
     
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  5. Eikester Apprentice Engineer

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    tbh some look cool like the hazmat, emissive stripes and racing suit but the rest, i have to agree, is crap, seriously wood? pyjama? RAINBOW? only thing to make it worse is to add a unicorn helmet
     
  6. oleando Apprentice Engineer

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    Well if it's implemented as a steam market thing TF2 unboxing style, i won't be able to say anything else but "Disgusting", specially if devs actually wated their time for it.
    If it's just in game cosmetics unlocked trough achieving certain goals or achivements within a server, it'd be nice, but not a priority, as it's already been said that the core gameplay for survival still needs to be fixed.
     
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  7. Vrmithrax Senior Engineer

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    Greaaaaaaaaat... Now I want a unicorn helmet. Dammit...
     
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  8. Syncaidius Junior Engineer

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    To be fair, the golden SMG looked pretty awesome. I'm all for them adding support for paid cosmetic items

    IF

    They use the revenue to fund development of more actual gameplay, because right now SE is a hollow shell of a sandbox beyond building a ship and flying/smashing/destroying it.
     
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  9. Arcturus Senior Engineer

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    Lists of all item types known with my opinions in brackets.

    Suit Types list:

    Graffiti (hideous)
    Disco
    Zombie (ugly)
    EmissiveStripes (cool!)
    Wood
    Frozen
    DigitalCamouflage
    Golden (cool!)
    Hazmat (cool!)
    Hexagon
    Leopard (meow?)
    Metallic (cool!)
    Newspaper (hideous)
    Prisoner
    Racing (cool!)
    Rainbow (ugly)
    Skeleton
    Veteran (cool!)
    Zebra
    Medieval (sort of interesting)
    Cow (lol)
    Glamour (cool!)
    Lava (hot?)
    Mummy (ugly)
    Pharaoh (cool! - I get Stargate feels)
    Crocodile
    Policeman
    Slime (ugly)
    Terracotta (ugly)
    Badger (lol, looks like a Domo face helmet)
    Carpet (hideous)
    KeenPajamas (hideous, especially the smiley helmet)
    KidsPajamas (hideous, especially the smiley helmet)

    Tools Types list:
    Cow (lol)
    DigitalCamouflage
    Glamour (cool)
    Golden (cool)
    Graffiti (ugly)
    Lava
    Leopard
    Slime (ugly)
    TerraCotta
    Carpet
    Newspaper (ugly)
    Metallic (cool)
    Skeleton (ugly)
    Wood
    Zebra (ugly)
    Crocodile
    Policeman (cool)
    Zombie
    Prisoner (WHY does the prisoner have a prison stripe GUN!?)
     
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  10. Sarekh Senior Engineer

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    Sooo, the items can be found in game as a discovery element - they don't have to be bought, they are even some form of gameplay. Anyone feeling like this whole thread deserves a "told you so" stamp?
     
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  11. Spets Master Engineer

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    after the update video...
    ok, those skins are bad ass
     
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  12. zDeveloper10 Junior Engineer

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    paid costhmetics, meh. as long as they don't advertise it everywhere. (i.e. opening inventory and getting a faceful of banners asking you to buy it. because that would be cancerous).
    the videos are actually part of the community engagement- they have someone hired to do that so it's not like they have just one programmer who's sitting around joking with people on youtube/twitch. sure beats a company who's completely cold and silent!
     
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  13. Malware Master Engineer

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    Psst... This is already out. It's not paid cosmetics.
     
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  14. kingkrieg Apprentice Engineer

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    Welp, after today's update we can safely say some people just want to jump into things


    please, by all means, jump into a volcano next ;)
     
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  15. zDeveloper10 Junior Engineer

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    I was referring to the people losing their head about the potential
     
  16. Malware Master Engineer

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    Ah, gotcha.
     
  17. admanter Apprentice Engineer

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    Horray, we can put the pitchforks down!
     
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  18. Ghostickles Senior Engineer

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    The guys could have commented on the thread though, what a bunch of trolls!
    I say keep the pitchforks ready!
    Also; ME players knew about this on tuesday..
    :)
     
  19. midspace Senior Engineer

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    Psst. There is a unicorn on the Rainbow Helmet.
     
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  20. Jikanta Apprentice Engineer

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    The Carpet Welder! Never knew I needed such a thing!
     
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  21. Malware Master Engineer

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    You are both right. It all depends. Oh, and by the way, interesting you should say "any developer any where" given that Phoenix is one...
     
  22. KissSh0t Master Engineer

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    Is there somewhere where I can look at all the new skin designs?
     
  23. Timuroslav Apprentice Engineer

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    That medieval engineers skin though. I'd wear that everywhere... Even at work... I'd even wear one those T shirts shaped like a muscle man. lol
     
  24. midspace Senior Engineer

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  25. Sarekh Senior Engineer

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    Thanks, but no, white skulls in my face always make me look puffy
     
  26. Gwindalmir Senior Engineer

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    Heh, you are right, I should have said "does not instantly make it beta quality". :)
     
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  27. midspace Senior Engineer

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    See C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\SpaceEngineers\Content\Textures\GUI\Icons\Skins\Astronaut
     
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  28. Roxette Senior Engineer

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    FTFY :)
     
  29. Chaosrex Apprentice Engineer

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    Oh glory!, another of those post where the guy is "revealing the truth" about KSH dark plot...

    Give it a rest, no one care about that.

    The only thing we care about is the Mighty Clang, come on shoo, shoo go away!...
     
  30. oleando Apprentice Engineer

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    Now that it has better direction it's less probable, but i've honestly expected keen to screw up hard in these years.
    Only late this year i've regained some hope, i have the impression there was a change in keen, did they finally hire that producer?
     
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