Update 1.185.1 - Beta Improvements, Physics & Engineering Contest

First?


Yep, first. For the first time...
Great update! We could have use the Resolution Changer last time, but it is good to see it at last!

 

physics bending, engineering ingenuity? that's gonna be a good one

 

Physics improvements after the overhaul are gonna take some time, but good to see work on it

 

This is really triple A shit.

Edit: To clarify, I'm quoting Marek from the major update stream, praising the game, not critising it.

 

This is neat.

 

Please for the love of clang, do not...I repeat do not add that horrific skybox back into the game. But good job on the Physics

 

That skybox is so ugly... at least dust it off before you implement it :/

 

Is anyone else having issues loading old save files?

I am seeing the following error in the logs

Code:

2017-11-23 13:11:01.999 - Thread:  1 ->  ERROR: Loading screen failed
2017-11-23 13:11:02.003 - Thread:  1 ->  Exception occured: System.OutOfMemoryException: Array dimensions exceeded supported range.
  at VRageRender.Import.MyModelImporter.ReadArrayOfString(BinaryReader reader)
  at VRageRender.Import.MyModelImporter.LoadTagData(BinaryReader reader, String[] tags)
  at VRageRender.Import.MyModelImporter.ImportData(String assetFileName, String[] tags)
  at VRage.Game.Models.MyModel.LoadData()
  at VRage.Game.Models.MyModels.GetModelOnlyData(String modelAsset)
  at Sandbox.Game.Entities.MyFloatingObjects.LoadData()
  at Sandbox.Game.World.MySession.LoadComponent(MySessionComponentBase component)
  at Sandbox.Game.World.MySession.LoadDataComponents()
  at Sandbox.Game.World.MySession.PrepareBaseSession(MyObjectBuilder_Checkpoint checkpoint, MyObjectBuilder_Sector sector)
  at Sandbox.Game.World.MySession.Load(String sessionPath, MyObjectBuilder_Checkpoint checkpoint, UInt64 checkpointSizeInBytes, Boolean saveLastStates)
  at Sandbox.Game.World.MySessionLoader.<>c__DisplayClass21.<DownloadModsDone>b__1d()
  at Sandbox.Graphics.GUI.MyGuiScreenBase.RunLoadingAction()
  at Sandbox.Game.Gui.MyGuiScreenLoading.RunLoad()

UPDATE:
After verifying file integrity of the game files, it found and re-downloaded 1 file and i am able to join and load saves/servers

 

https://forums.keenswh.com/threads/what-a-freaking-mess.7398453/

 

The old approach to rotors and pistons wasn't satisfactory. Now Keen is trying a different solution to fix the problem. This is pretty much what we wanted all along. I'm sure there will be new issues. But they're trying and willing to re-engineer (no pun intended) parts of the game to make it handle better. Appreciated.

 

The condor video is fake, the wheels of the dropped rover are not falling of and start inspecting the neighborhood. In other words, the wheels are still buggy.

 

Nice to see the update, but not the "new" skybox.

 

That skybox should be optional, its not bad, but its also not what everyone wants, since people tend to like more extravagant skyboxes with Nebulea's and other stuffs in the background.

 

Oh please not the old skybox
It's so low-contrast and low-detailed dustclouds and dare i say it... boring

 

Its nice that the game is getting fixed. Just a little curious regards the hype..

The present, should have been thought about in the past.
The game has a lot more to fix, just don't push it out as some big thing.
Should have been done a long time ago.

 

The only diff is -> she now disable Physics complete on pistons/rotors so no calculation > no clang ...
An brilliant solution - disable/remove an function to fix an problem ... why we have an physics engine anyway .... ... ...
The idea with safety lock was "basicaly" the same (disable physic calculation on "lock" state ..) but on moving the subpart, the physic was active ... but safety lock to fixing was out of the capabilitis of the devs ...
Now the only thing that can destroy blocks is collision (with ground or bullets/explosion)
This is realy "engineering" ..... name it better Lego in space ...

 

......but the skybox is optional, if you don't like it just enable on from the workshop ... really no problem, i cant even remember since how many years i don't saw the vanilla skybox

 

Hey, there is a big problem after this update! Subgrids (connected by rotors) in yerterday's saves are missing today. Has anyone this problem today?
This not applied to all subgrids. In my world i have two identical ships with deployable gates on two rotors each. One in space, second on planet. In one of them (this on planet) gates dissapeared. I tried all 5 backup saves from yesterday. Gates are visible on save screenshots but after loading they are gone. After all i'm pretty sure that they were while saving the game. After moment i'll try with previous version of game.

 

@McVoy - Bug Reports section is the best place to go with your post.
It may go unnoticed in this thread.

 

Honestly the new skybox is kinda eh.
I think this would, however, be a good opportunity to add a minor feature I think a lot of people might appreciate. The option to set the skybox in a save's world settings. That way, players could have a few skyboxes to choose from (vanilla and/or modded) and select different ones for different games. Like, one specifically for deep space, or one more appropriate for a custom star system.

 

Thanks

 

Well, Marek seems to like the original skybox, and it's his game. I haven't used the vanilla skybox since the day I found out skyboxes were in the workshop.

There are almost literally as many skyboxes in the workshop as there are people playing SE. It takes two seconds to download and install the skybox you want, and you can subscribe to as many as you want.

For me, the Space Just Got Real mod includes a skybox that I can live with.

 

I'd enter the competition if the prize was Xocliw's sunglasses.



P.S. A potted plant, how officey.

 

Why was there nothing in the last two patchnotes about them increasing the large thruster damage area to bigger than flame area? is it a bug? they specifically patched and fixed it then undid it without a word of warning.

 

it would be worth mentioning - the "most" skyboxes come with an speedmod or additionaly "undocumented" changes to vital game files (environment changes ... as example) and if you use an old mod (where have this changes you dont know and the author have "forgotten" -or simply ignored- the changes to write in the mod description) on an game version where this values have changed or removed/replaced you can get into "trouble" you dont understand why ...
[this happen on a couple of mods in the past on my server mods .. i check every mod i use on my server self today]

 

This is true as a lot of skybox mods tend to be done as a favor for a particular person, group or server and might include other undocumented requests.

Might be easier to ask someone to make a skybox for you

 

You know what would be the best fix? MULTIPLAYER FIXES!

 

Realistically he'd have broken them by the time you'd get them.

--- Automerge ---

They're working on it.

 

He also seems to like windows that are smeared with poo so you can barely see through them... but pistons and rotors seem to be working better now, so we got that going for us, which is nice.